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Trevor The Wave · Apr 14, 2008, 04:32 AM // 04:32

oovveerrrrpowered warriors and paragons? lol...

/notsigned.

skanvak · Apr 14, 2008, 06:14 AM // 06:14

I love this suggestions. I don't see why it should be. I don't care over balance so that not a problem for me. I hate the distinction between pve/pvp skill. So Yes I am in favor.

But I will add another suggestion : when can we have skill that allow either to use or transform into Juggernaut/turtle. That would be more fun.
That could be limited to the Guilds owning cities and distributed in limited number by the Alliance leaders. This way you can either fight standard team or a city team with Juggernaut/turtle. That would be fun.

Beside balance = no fun

RavagerOfDreams · Apr 14, 2008, 06:52 AM // 06:52

lulz critical agility farmer sins in ab

/nothanks

Arkantos · Apr 14, 2008, 06:55 AM // 06:55

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Originally Posted by RavagerOfDreams

lulz critical agility farmer sins in ab

/nothanks

Critical agility is a sunspear skill, not an allegiance skill.

upier · Apr 14, 2008, 07:30 AM // 07:30

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

I farm suxon wammos with my 55 monk.

Still reminds me of that time at Aspy when half the Kurzick team quit - and then our mighty wammo decides that he is man enough to take down a SoJ 55.
After dying to the 55 a couple of times - he call in for re-enforcements. So he is joined by additional wammos and then they start dying together.
Good times!

On-topic:
Nope - thanks!
PvE skills are only in the game because the Charr have a shitty union!

AshenX · Apr 14, 2008, 07:32 AM // 07:32

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Originally Posted by wu is me

Well.... no.... If /rank'ing with a phoenix did non-trivial damage(for example) in HA, i would /resign

Sorry but your comparison is not a valid one. An emote is not a skill and is not designed to have an in game effect. It would be like sayiing that jsut wearing obsidian armor should damage any foes in the area.

BlackSephir · Apr 14, 2008, 08:03 AM // 08:03

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Originally Posted by skanvak

Beside balace = no fun

Oh, wow, it's true that some people take stupidity to a whole new level.

FengShuiDove · Apr 14, 2008, 03:44 PM // 15:44

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Originally Posted by upier

Still reminds me of that time at Aspy when half the Kurzick team quit - and then our mighty wammo decides that he is man enough to take down a SoJ 55.
After dying to the 55 a couple of times - he call in for re-enforcements. So he is joined by additional wammos and then they start dying together.
Good times!

I ran perma-Shadow in AB a few times. Get in Luxon base and watch the whole team just swing away hopelessly for 5 minutes. GG. There's too many Signet of Judgment Asscasters to be safe with it anymore. Depending, of course, on if they know what and when to interrupt.

On topic:

12 Crit Strikes, 12 Earth Prayers

[skill]Aura of Holy Might[/skill][skill]Vow of Strength[/skill][skill]Way of the Master[/skill][skill]Critical Eye[/skill]

Some IAS, IMS, self-heal, and again, gg. I think it'd be fun but the builds would get way too gimmicky way too fast.

HawkofStorms · Apr 14, 2008, 05:47 PM // 17:47

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Originally Posted by AshenX

Sorry but your comparison is not a valid one. An emote is not a skill and is not designed to have an in game effect. It would be like sayiing that jsut wearing obsidian armor should damage any foes in the area.

Actually it is. You get the emote by grinding and playing repeatedly in HoH.
You get the title that makes the skills more effective by grinding and playing AB/HFFF repeatedly.

N1ghtstalker · Apr 14, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

/notsigned
you know what would new builds would pop up then? Oo
imagine a team of 4 spiritspammers with all each different spirits set up at their base, when you rush in for the kill suddenly... BAM

Tyla · Apr 14, 2008, 05:57 PM // 17:57

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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove

On topic:

12 Crit Strikes, 12 Earth Prayers

[skill]Aura of Holy Might[/skill][skill]Vow of Strength[/skill][skill]Way of the Master[/skill][skill]Critical Eye[/skill]

Some IAS, IMS, self-heal, and again, gg. I think it'd be fun but the builds would get way too gimmicky way too fast.

I was thinking more along the lines of AoHM, WotM, Assassin's Remedy, Wearying Strike, Emerite's Attack, Mystic Sweep.

Artorius.Maximus · Apr 14, 2008, 06:00 PM // 18:00

/signed

Logic (faulty maybe, but logic): Results of AB affects the PvE world. Depending on where the line is drawn between luxon/kurzick affects where you respawn on party wipe, must be at a non manned shrine if you are against whoever owns that shrine. Affects ability to purchase blessings at shrines. Affects who owns towns (I know, that is the point to it).

If there is any connection between AB and the PvE world, then the Kurz/Lux skills should be allowed in AB so that the connection also flows from PvE to AB. I am not asking for a complete imbalance of PvP, just allow those skills to AB, would also include Fort Aspenwood and Jade Flats (no change to any other PvP area).

the Puppeteer · Apr 14, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22

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Should we have the ability to use Allegiance PvE skills in Alliance Battles?

I think the question pretty much has the answer

Nevin · Apr 14, 2008, 07:05 PM // 19:05

To be honest, AB is already such a joke... It should be the same for Aspenwood and Quarry though.

Noob: (lul wuts quarry????)

Arkantos · Apr 14, 2008, 09:08 PM // 21:08

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Originally Posted by Artorius.Maximus

/signed

Logic (faulty maybe, but logic): Results of AB affects the PvE world. Depending on where the line is drawn between luxon/kurzick affects where you respawn on party wipe, must be at a non manned shrine if you are against whoever owns that shrine. Affects ability to purchase blessings at shrines. Affects who owns towns (I know, that is the point to it).

If there is any connection between AB and the PvE world, then the Kurz/Lux skills should be allowed in AB so that the connection also flows from PvE to AB. I am not asking for a complete imbalance of PvP, just allow those skills to AB, would also include Fort Aspenwood and Jade Flats (no change to any other PvP area).

So because AB minorly affects PvE, you should be able to use PvE skills in AB, a form of PvP?

I'm happy PvE skills weren't around when HA affected favor, or someone might have used that horrible logic.

Now, here's my logic. AB is PvP. Allegiance skills are PvE skills. PvE skills belong in PvE, not PvP.

MithranArkanere · Apr 14, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

Ok. let's go to the main thing that makes Ab different to PvE:
Your party can defeat player characters that are not in you party.

Some allegiance PvE skills are the less 'overpowered' of the PvE skills almost PvP-like, yet not all of them are like that, and they are still PvE skills.

Nuclfus · Apr 14, 2008, 11:32 PM // 23:32

There's only one condition under which I can see them being used in AB: if regardless of the player's title, the attribute/rank for the skill is automatically set to 1 in AB. That solves your concerns here:

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Originally Posted by Hodgie

Fine then, but still why arn't the skills which u unlock with faction able to be used in the very thing u can get fraction from?

and it makes balance much less of an issue (still a minor point since people need to donate that 100k faction for title rank 1).

But I'm pretty sure that wouldn't satisfy anybody, so I'm voting no.

RavagerOfDreams · Apr 15, 2008, 12:20 AM // 00:20

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Critical agility is a sunspear skill, not an allegiance skill.

lol i feel stupid

well then aura of holy might scythesins make stuff go boom?

Gregslot · Apr 15, 2008, 12:36 AM // 00:36

Yea, if you havent noticed, but Cry of Pain delas 100 damage at foes IN THE AREA!
100 direct damage and recharges in 12 seconds

T. Drake · Apr 15, 2008, 12:38 AM // 00:38

The Alliance Battle might not be the best PvP Mode, but every Player should have an equal chance to fight against other players, so not signed to this one.